Title– And So Things Go (20/34)
Author– jlrpuck
Rating – T
Pairing – Peter Carlisle/Rose Tyler
Disclaimer – Characters from Blackpool and Doctor Who are the property of the BBC, and are used with the greatest of love and respect; no profit is intended from the writing or sharing of this story.
Summary – The story of how Peter Carlisle moved to London to live with Rose Tyler.
Author’s Notes – Peter and Rose spend their Sunday together. Oh, and there’s dinner…

[livejournal.com profile] earlgreytea68 and [livejournal.com profile] chicklet73 have been ideal betas for this—supportive, diligent, and full of excellent ideas. [livejournal.com profile] lostwolfchats has been fabulous, as well, and equally as invaluable, ensuring that I didn’t ruin the Queen’s English…too badly. Any errors—grammatical, colloquial, or factual—are mine, and mine alone. The lovely header is by [livejournal.com profile] angelfireeast .


Chapter 1 | Chapter 2 | Chapter 3 | Chapter 4 | Chapter 5 | Chapter 6 | Chapter 7 | Chapter 8 | Chapter 9 | Chapter 10 | Chapter 11 | Chapter 12 | Chapter 13 | Chapter 14 | Chapter 15 | Chapter 16 | Chapter 17 | Chapter 18 | Chapter 19 | Chapter 20 | Chapter 21 | Chapter 22 | Chapter 23 | Chapter 24 | Chapter 25 | Chapter 26 | Chapter 27 | Chapter 28 | Chapter 29 | Chapter 30 | Chapter 31 | Chapter 32 | Chapter 33 | Epilogue

The bulk of Sunday was spent lazing about Rose’s flat; they’d awoken quite late, and neither had been inclined to leave bed any sooner than necessary.
Peter finally relented first, desperate for coffee; as he glanced back at Rose, still naked from their lovemaking before going to sleep the night previous, he hesitated. She grinned impishly before moving to stand next to him. “You need coffee, Peter. I’ll go with you.”
Rose didn’t have Louise, but she did have Gretchen, the regular barista in the small coffee shop on the ground floor of her building. The young woman had been smitten with Peter the very first time he stopped in the shop—he’d told her the story, stammering and blushing, after the first time she visited the shop with him and saw Gretchen’s reaction—and Rose loved going with him for coffee, watching the usually sardonic woman turn to mush over the dark Scotsman.
Her dark Scotsman.
She’d not considered—not for a while, at least—how Peter might still be bothered by the Doctor. She told Peter as often as she could that she loved him, saw him, wanted him; but the fear was still there. Even in the dark of the lounge the night before, she’d been able to see how haunted Peter looked as he finally talked about his fears.
She wished she could make him understand just how solidly she was now rooted in this world; that she was rooted there because of him, and that she’d not leave him even if the Doctor came back for her. Telling Peter only seemed to go so far, and she had the feeling that it might be a fear he’d always feel. She wondered if perhaps she might do well to tell Peter exactly how different he was—
“Rose?” Peter’s voice was bemused, and she came back to the present.
“Mmm?”
“Did ye want coffee or tea?”
“Coffee, please.” She smiled up at Peter, her heart skipping a beat as she watched him chat up Gretchen. His hair was hopeless, standing on end in many different directions; he’d pulled out a pair of tatty old jeans and a wrinkled shirt from the back of her wardrobe, left there months before during a long visit.
He was a mess. And he was adorable.
He turned to her, handing her a coffee; she blushed at being caught staring. His gaze sharpened, and he gave her his lethal slow grin—the grin that never failed to seduce her. “Shall we, Miss Tyler?” he drawled, crooking his elbow.
She grinned, resting her hand there. “Do, let's.”
They didn’t make love again that morning, but Peter did delight in teasing her, seeing if he could distract her whilst they worked on the crossword, or as she was on a phone call with Jake. She felt her heart soar when he giggled, early in the afternoon, the result of her tickling him in an effort to get him to stop driving her spare with his flirting.
Peter had arranged with Elias to have an early dinner that evening, and Peter finally had to leave to get ready shortly before 4, having left his ‘dinner’ clothes at the hotel. She was surprised at how bereft she felt when he was gone; how empty the flat felt. She’d only felt that way once, really, weeks before; she’d called Peter and awoken him, and the feeling had faded after speaking with him.
And now it was back.
She punched a pillow, frustrated, as she made the bed. It really was her own fault—she should have taken Peter up on his suggestion of moving in together when he had made it. Now, she’d have to work out when to talk to him about it—and she really did need to have a talk with her supervisors at Torchwood to see what her options were for moving to Kendal.
Assuming, of course, Peter didn’t get a job with the Met.
She felt a bubble of hope in her chest at the thought. Peter, working for the Met. It wasn’t just that it would bring him to London, although that would be a nice byproduct; it was that he would be working in a place that chose him, that appreciated his talents and skills, and where he had a clean slate and a shot at success. It was exactly the type of environment he would thrive in, and she found herself growing giddy with the possibility that he might finally get the recognition he had so long been denied.
Dinner was across the river, and she had to hurry to get dressed in time to meet Peter. He’d reassured her it was a relaxed dinner, that he’d be dressed nicely but not formally; she chose a dress with a cardigan, and spent far too much time looking for a pair of shoes which would complement the dress but wouldn’t be too ‘dressy.’ She finally settled on a pair of black patent-leather heels, and fairly sprinted downstairs to the waiting taxi.
He was waiting for her in his hotel lobby, dressed in his favourite ‘dining out’ outfit: black trousers, plum jumper, white shirt. His hair was still damp and had been combed back; as she pulled back from kissing him, she ruffled his hair.
“Rose!”
She grinned. “I hate it like that.”
He brushed his palms across his hair, trying to smooth it down again; she reached out, grabbing his wrist. “It’s not a formal dinner, Peter.”
He looked at her sulkily; she smiled. “You look just fine, Peter. You always do.”
“Then why’d you mess my hair?”
Except when your hair is slicked back,” she laughed.
There was a large, fancy restaurant on the main level of the hotel; below stairs, however, was a smaller, more intimate restaurant which also had the advantage of being less formal. It was there that they’d dine, but Peter had arranged to meet Ruby and Elias in the lobby. “Give you a chance to run away, should you so desire,” he winked at her, telling her of the evening’s plans.
“He puts up with you, I can’t see him being too terrible.”
Peter hmm’ed noncommittally as he scanned the lobby for his friends. It was an odd position, really: Peter had so few friends, it was usually she who was looking for their dinner companions, whilst Peter stood by, people-watching.
She rather liked the switch.
Rose had been watching an older, moneyed couple argue quietly off to the side of the lobby when she noticed Peter’s body language change. He bounced on the balls of his feet, leaning forward; she turned, curious as to how the couple who Peter so clearly respected, looked.
It was easy to spot them—they were the only other young couple in the lobby. Ruby’s hair complemented her name, a deep red hue which set off her fair skin. She was statuesque, and was already beaming halfway across the room.
And then there was Elias. It took a moment for Rose to realize why it was he looked so familiar; after all, it had been almost seven years. She blinked, certain she was seeing things, Peter’s voice muffled as she concentrated.
It wasn’t Elias. It was bloody Sir Robert from Scotland. From Torchwood House.
“Rose?” It was the soft note of concern in Peter’s voice which pulled her back.
“Sorry, mind drifted a bit.” She grinned up at Peter, willing him to let the matter drop, at least until after supper.
He gave her a brief, searching glance, then turned back to Elias and Ruby with a grin.
“Elias, Ruby—it’s my pleasure to introduce you to Rose. Rose, these are Elias and Ruby.”
Rose shook Ruby’s hand, smiling; Sir Robert—Elias—gave her a steady gaze as he took her hand. “Have we met, Ms. Tyler?”
At least he wasn’t Scottish. “I don’t believe so, unless you count the stories I’ve been hearing from Peter.” She released his hand. “And Rose, please. Ms. Tyler gives me the willies.”
She fought down a wince. She had a bad habit of slipping into “heiress” mode in social circumstances; these were Peter’s friends, and she needed to just be herself. Easier said than done, though, given how nervous she was, and the memories brought out just by looking at Peter’s friend.
Peter led the way down to the restaurant, chatting happily with Elias. Peter was a completely different man, smiling, talking; she’d only ever seen him like that with her, and she couldn’t fight down a smile.
“Not always like this then, is he?” Ruby asked conspiratorially.
“No,” she said fondly.
“He was a right cipher, first few times I met him,” Ruby replied, following Peter and Elias.
“I can believe it.” She grinned, remembering those early days of working with Peter. “He can be quite a charmer, when he chooses to be,” she added drily.
Ruby laughed in knowing agreement.
Peter was waiting for her at the entrance to the small restaurant; he allowed Ruby to go through, then followed Rose, his hand at her back. “You alright?” he whispered as they walked through to the table.
“Right enough.” She glanced at him, smiling. “Nothing to worry about.”
Ruby and Elias were waiting to sit at the table, watching them; she blushed under their steady scrutiny as she walked the last few steps to them. She couldn’t remember the last time she’d cared so much about making a good impression on someone.
She wanted Peter’s friends to like her, desperately.
Conversation briefly waned whilst they looked at their menus. She wasn’t hungry, nervousness knotting her stomach, but she found something she thought she might be able to stomach. Peter had picked up on her nervousness and smiled at her as the waiter collected their menus, brushing his hand over hers briefly before beginning to converse with his friends.
She spent much of the first course simply listening, watching how Elias and Ruby interacted with each other, and how Peter interacted with them in turn. Ruby seemed to have taken on the older sister role for Peter, teasing him mercilessly about his sunny personality; Rose fought down a smile as Peter stammered out a response to a particularly pointed observation about his behaviour early on in his visit to Glasgow.
Ruby was definitely the talker of the two; Elias seemed content to sit back, to let others carry the conversation while he watched. Not that he didn’t chime in periodically—and when he did his comments were usually succinct, and incredibly funny. She could see how Peter would like working with the man.
As she sat back, mostly silent, she didn’t miss the glances Peter kept stealing, his eyes dark as he watched her, making sure she was alright.
Once the main courses were served, however, Ruby decided she’d had enough of Rose being quiet. “So, Rose, Peter never did tell us how you two met.”
Peter sighed theatrically. “I told you we met—”
“Shoosh, you. I want to hear Rose tell it. I’m sure her version is far more accurate.” Ruby turned to her, her eyes alight. “He says he seduced you with poetry in the rain.”
Rose laughed, drawing several glances from other tables. “He does, does he?”
“I knew he was lying!” Ruby said, grinning at Peter.
“I never said he was lying,” Rose replied, feeling the corners of her mouth curve upwards. “But that’s not how we met.”
Ruby leaned forward, eager for the story; Elias remained sat back in his chair, watching her.
Peter was smiling, his eyes soft.
“The first time we met, Peter Carlisle was...grumpy. Very grumpy.” She leaned towards Ruby. “I’m fairly certain he’d not been fed or coffee’d,” she said in a stage whisper.
“And you talked to him a second time?!” Ruby asked, feigning shock.
“It’s remarkable, isn’t it?” She stole a glance at Peter; he was still smiling. “But I did. He...was having a bad day, I think.”
“It was not the best of days, no.” Peter added, laughing softly.
“And?” Ruby prompted.
“And we kept crossing paths, for quite some while. And then he quoted poetry at me in the rain, and I was done for.” Rose once again leaned in towards Ruby. “There’s nothing quite like a Scotsman reciting Burns to drive a girl wild.”
“Don’t I know it,” Ruby nodded. “I think they teach them when they’re young ‘uns; Elias has tried it a time or two.”
Rose turned to the gentleman in question. “You’re Scottish?”
“You make it sound like a disease,” Elias rejoined, lapsing into a brogue.
Rose couldn’t help the flash back to Torchwood House, and fought to regain her equilibrium. “There are worse afflictions to have.” She fought to keep the tartness from her voice, trying desperately to keep some semblance of normalcy to her reaction. Elias, she suspected, was very much like Peter, and would pick up on anything amiss from her. “You hide it well.”
“Years of training,” he offered drily, still with his brogue.
She had no idea what to say—or at least, what to say that wouldn’t sound very rude indeed. The taciturn man next to her was suddenly nothing like Peter had described, and Rose felt her confidence falter.
Peter spoke up. “We went on our first date that night.”
Rose met his gaze, feeling herself settle and relaxing as she saw his warm smile. “We did. A picnic on the castle green. It’s the best first date I’ve ever had.” She smiled gently at Peter.
“I’m glad.”
Elias cleared his throat. “Who knew you were a closet romantic?” he offered, his estuary accent back as he turned to Peter with a smile.
“You did, as I recall,” Peter replied drily.
Their meals arrived, and conversation continued in fits and starts. Rose slowly grew more comfortable, at least with Ruby; it was hard, looking at Elias and seeing the face of the man who’d died to save her life, the Doctor’s life—and the life of Queen Victoria, who’d not even made it to that age in this universe.
It was after the dinner dishes were cleared that Elias finally asked her a direct question. “Peter’s the sphinx about you, Rose. He won’t even tell us what it is you do.”
Rose felt her gaze sharpen as she looked at Elias, then forced herself to relax. “You didn’t check the papers?” she asked, grinning at the man. Her reply surprised him, and she felt a small flash of satisfaction.
“I usually prefer to ask the source.”
“Wise,” she nodded, still smiling. “I work for Torchwood, LLC. According to the media—or Peter—I do nothing but cause trouble.”
“I never said that,” Peter replied, grinning.
“True—although you’ve implied it,” Rose said impishly, clearly indicating she was teasing him. She returned her attention to Elias. “I work in field management. Dull stuff, really—lots of moving things from here to there, making sure paperwork is filled out, that sort of thing.”
“How does one get into that kind of job?”
“It helps to be the owner’s daughter,” she replied with a wry smile. “A degree or even basic schooling is optional.”
Again, she noticed Elias’s surprise. What was he expecting from her?
“I thought they made allowances for on-the-job experience?” Peter added slyly.
“Ah, excellent point.” She grinned at Peter. “It also allows for periodic trips to quaint little corners of our country.”
“You have anyplace in particular in mind?” Peter’s voice was full of laughter.
“I met the oddest man, once, in Kendal...It was the best trip of my career.” Rose laughed warmly. She glanced over to find Ruby giving her a thoughtful look.
“You’re not at all what I expected,” the redhead finally said.
“Thank you. I think.”
“You’re welcome.”
“Peter said you were blunt; I’m glad to see he wasn’t wrong.” Rose smiled, meaning the comment sincerely.
“It has its advantages,” Ruby laughed.
“It’s brilliant for keeping DI’s in line, I should think.”
“Yes, it does come in rather handy.”
Elias remained fairly well silent for the remainder of dinner, offering comments but rarely, mostly sitting back and watching the interplay. Rose was finding it difficult to figure him out, and she was utterly baffled as to how he’d managed to draw Peter out so quickly.
They were finishing up their dessert when she finally could resist no longer. “Elias.”
He turned to her, his dark glance questioning.
“How in heaven's name did you get the reputation for being the chatty one?”
Ruby guffawed, and even Peter laughed. Elias looked offended.
“I beg your pardon?”
“All I ever heard from Peter was how talkative you were; how you kept forcing him to go out and eat and actually communicate. But...”
“You’ve been silent all night, Eli,” Ruby chimed in.
“I’ve been listening!”
“You’ve been glowering,” Ruby corrected.
Elias huffed, causing Ruby to laugh more, and Peter to smile. “He really is far more conversant, most of the time,” Ruby said fondly.
He’s here,” Elias added, a note of laughter to his voice.
“Then he needs to talk more,” Ruby said sarcastically.
“Fine, fine. Rose, how do you feel about rugby?”
She paused, pretending to give it serious thought. “I like the shorts.”
“Netball?”
She wrinkled her nose. “Don’t get it.”
Elias turned to Ruby. “I can’t talk with her about anything!” he said in an exaggerated whine.
“Smartarse,” Ruby said, lightly swatting at Elias’s hand, resting on the table.
“Better than a dumb one, m’dear.” He’d turned his hand over to capture Ruby’s hand, and gave her a smile.
That was all it took to finally break the ice, and the rest of their time in the restaurant was spent talking about all manner of topics. It wasn’t a smashing success, as dinners went, but it had gone well enough, and as they stood in the lobby of the hotel after supper, Rose was genuinely happy to invite Elias and Ruby over for supper the following weekend. They parted with hugs and kisses on the cheek, and Rose beamed at Peter when they were once again alone.
Peter had packed a carryall, and he joined Rose for the taxi ride back to Southwark. They were both quiet, Rose leaning against him as he gently stroked her arm, the light from the streetlamps flashing through the car as they rode the short distance to her flat.
Peter tossed his carryall off to the side as soon as they were in her flat, moving to turn on a light; she made sure the door was secure, and set the keys aside before moving to him for a hug. It felt so good to have him there, holding her, safe in her flat.
“You’re alright?” Peter asked, rocking her gently.
“Right as rain.” She buried her nose in his jumper, loving the smell: a mixture of the spray his drycleaner used, his deodorant, and the cologne he only rarely wore. Underneath it all, she could catch the faint hint of the shaving soap she’d given him. The combined scents reminded her of some of the happiest nights of her life.
Peter hesitated, and she leaned back. “What...what was it?” he asked, tilting his chin down and meeting her eye.
She knew exactly what he was referring to. “Elias.”
Peter was genuinely surprised. “Elias?”
“He...” She sighed, wondering where to being the story. “I told you about Torchwood, yeah—how it was founded, at Torchwood House?”
Peter nodded, holding her gaze. “The werewolf.”
“That’s the one. When I was there—when the Doctor and I were there—we were guests of a man named Sir Robert, and his wife, Lady Isobel.” She took a deep breath. “Your partner is—well, looks like—Sir Robert. More than looks like. He could be him.”
“Ah. And what was Sir Robert’s fate?”
“He was killed. By the werewolf,” Rose said, remembering.
Peter kissed her forehead before pulling her back in for a hug. “I have faith that won’t happen to Elias. Certainly not on this case.”
Rose gave a weak laugh. “Let’s hope not—they’d be sure to find out who I really work for.”
Peter continued to rock her back and forth, and she relaxed into his embrace.
“Thank you, Rose,” he whispered several moments later.
“You’re welcome.” She tilted her chin back again. “For what?”
“Dinner. I know it was hard.”
She smiled ruefully. “You’ve had tea with my Mum three times, now, met my Dad and survived.
This was the least I could do for you.”
“So you don’t need me to express my appreciation?”
“You’re always welcome to, you know.” She poked the tip of her tongue out the corner of her mouth, knowing Peter loved it.
He bent down, placing a chaste kiss on her lips. “Thank you, Rose.”
She grinned. “You’re welcome.”
He kissed her properly, and she laughed against his lips.

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From: [identity profile] avidbeader.livejournal.com


Loved the dinner setting, of seeing all four of them break the ice with one another. I hope that they'll be able to clear the air soon about Rose's job so they can relax fully with each other--I'd say it's too much to hope for that Rose would be able to tell them her real history.

From: [identity profile] jlrpuck-fic.livejournal.com


I'm still working out precisely when and how Rose tells Elias and Ruby what it is she does. Ruby, of course, already knows--she's crossed paths with Torchwood before, and saw Rose although Rose didn't see her--but Elias hasn't any idea.

As for telling them her real history? I like to think that she does, eventually.
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From: [identity profile] ladychi.livejournal.com


First time I've ever commented on this series, but I'd only just finished reading the entire thing front to back. It's really a wonderful universe. The characters are spot on, the dialogue is incredibly engaging... and I love the way you've created this balanced relationship between Rose & Peter. Elias and Ruby are some of my favorite original characters. I'm hoping we find out more about them... and get to see more interaction with them over the course of this story.

Some of the things Rose does -- smelling Peter's jumper, for instance, always makes me smile. It seems natural for them.

Wonderful job!

From: [identity profile] jlrpuck-fic.livejournal.com


It's really a wonderful universe.

Thank you. I'm thrilled that you've enjoyed it!

I'm hoping we find out more about them... and get to see more interaction with them over the course of this story.

They're threaded throughout the rest of the story, although I'm afraid they remain supporting characters and not proper leads. As for their story proper, I'm convinced I'm going to have to sit down at some point and at least write a one-off, explaining their backstory.

Thanks again for the lovely comment.

From: [identity profile] amberfocus.livejournal.com


Ah, that was a delightful chapter. It took me by surprise, Elias looking like Sir Robert. Don't know why it should have done, it's clearly the same actor in the banner. I liked that little twist. And that Rose was able to talk to Peter about it. Can't wait to see what happens next, especially with the Met and Peter.

From: [identity profile] jlrpuck-fic.livejournal.com


It took me by surprise, Elias looking like Sir Robert.

Well...but honestly, it's not like you would have picked it up from the text. Peter certainly doesn't ever really describe him. The only way some folks knew--even before I put the pictures up on the cast page--was because I'd mentioned in a reply to a comment that Elias would be played by Derek Riddell, were I casting this.

And, of course, once I'd made it clear that Elias was played by Derek, well...Rose would *have* to react to it. And I wanted her to be in a spot, emotionally, where she was comfortable telling Peter about it.

From: [identity profile] lostwolfchats.livejournal.com


Awww - I want them to love Rose as much as we do, but it's very hard when she has to lie about her job, her origins - so much of what makes her her. Sigh.

From: [identity profile] jlrpuck-fic.livejournal.com


She's not *lying*, per se...she's just not telling the complete truth. ;)


From: [identity profile] salimali.livejournal.com


Well it 'could' have gone a bit better! I thought Rose and Ruby would get along but I wasn't prepared for Elias to go all quite and mysterious on us. I'm sure its just because he's intrigued by Rose and her story, not anything more suspicious. You say he doesn't know what Rose does for a living? Does he suspect? Is he worried that Rose is messing Peter about? I hope that the mystery of Rose's job doesn't get in the way of their friendship for long. I know he came around a bit in the end but I'm still a bit perturbed by his behaviour.

On another subject- Yes Rose you need to tell Peter how he is different to the Doctor and tell him how you feel about moving in together :o)

Another brilliant update from you, cheers x

From: [identity profile] salimali.livejournal.com


"all quite and mysterious "

I meant all quiet *duh*

Oh I wish I could edit my comments!!

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From: [identity profile] liber-noctuae.livejournal.com


yay a new chapter and I can leave a comment on time and in a sane manner!

ooOOooh the meet up! and I'm glad we got this initially from Rose's perspective. Though as ever I'm intrigued by what Peter would be thinking, I believe in this case he would be mostly in a state of low panic till he was sure Rose was truly comfortable with the situation. This is after all the first time he's really had to have her pass the friends test in their relationship.

I hope Rose has an easier time coming to terms with Elias. Just from their personalities they have the potential to become good friends as well, and I would think from her experience with Peter and Pete that she would be better at seeing him as his own person and not a ghost or a double.

I loved their interaction. Good on Ruby for having just the right amount of bluntness to start getting the ice broken. So this reciprocated dinner invitation, will it be at Rose's flat? will Peter be cooking? they'll probably tease him for being domestic, but then eat their words as it were, at the table ;)

Do they ever find out what she really does? I suppose they'll either find out by accident, curiosity or that Peter and Rose will decide they're in the inner sanctum and can know. I know I know, you probably won't answer, but that's never stopped my curiosity before.

thank you for a lovely chapter, have a good weekend!

From: [identity profile] jlrpuck-fic.livejournal.com


I can leave a comment on time and in a sane manner!

Hurrah for dissertations being finished!

I hope Rose has an easier time coming to terms with Elias.

She and Elias become good friends--although not as good as she and Ruby. *g*

So this reciprocated dinner invitation, will it be at Rose's flat?

They were invited to dine at Rose's flat, yes.

Do they ever find out what she really does?

Yes. Ruby already knows, from personal experience, what it is Rose does. But Elias does not. Ruby's not saying 'boo' about it, because she's got sense enough to know it's A Secret; but once Rose comes clean to both Elias and Ruby--and she will, down the line--Ruby'll mention that she'd seen Rose at a TW investigation a year or so before.

Have a great weekend!

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Hi! Anonymous Again!

Aaaah. I loved the dinner, but i feel really stupid that i've seen the banner loads of times and never noticed how Elias looks like Sir Robert.

I also loved the very first part of the story where it was just Peter and Rose having fun with a crossword in her flat. Aaaaaah

From: [identity profile] jlrpuck-fic.livejournal.com


Hello!

i feel really stupid that i've seen the banner loads of times and never noticed how Elias looks like Sir Robert.

Don't feel stupid--the shot of Derek Riddell *is* a bit un-Sir Robert!

I also loved the very first part of the story where it was just Peter and Rose having fun with a crossword in her flat.

*sigh* I can just imagine Peter trotting out all sorts of 50¢ words as they worked on it. mmmmmmmmmm....

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From: [identity profile] brilliantomega.livejournal.com


Love Elias being called out. Also I like Rose referring to his as Peter's partner, as if its now permanent rather than for the one gig...

*grins*

Happy Thursday!

From: [identity profile] jlrpuck-fic.livejournal.com


It was about time Elias got called out by *someone* other than Ruby! *g*

Happy Thursday!!

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Rose loved going with him for coffee, watching the usually sardonic woman turn to mush over the dark Scotsman.
Does no one else have this reaction to Peter? I'd be quite surprised about that.

She wondered if perhaps she might do well to tell Peter exactly how different he was
A direct comparison? That could backfire too.

His hair was hopeless, standing on end in many different directions;
*enjoys the image*

He turned to her, handing her a coffee;
Aww, I was hoping for some funny antics between him and Gretchen.

Peter did delight in teasing her, seeing if he could distract her whilst they worked on the crossword, or as she was on a phone call with Jake.
Could Jake tell? ;0)

She was surprised at how bereft she felt when he was gone; how empty the flat felt.
My swami sense detects foreshadowing...

she really did need to have a talk with her supervisors at Torchwood to see what her options were for moving to Kendal.
Assuming, of course, Peter didn’t get a job with the Met.

Wouldn't it be awful if they both moved and just sort of swapped?

It was exactly the type of environment he would thrive in, and she found herself grow giddy with the possibility that he might finally get the recognition he had so long been denied.
He might find himself a bit more plagued by zanzare and the problems of dating a celebrity.

spent far too much time looking for a pair of shoes which would complement the dress but wouldn’t be too ‘dressy.’
Don't we all?

His hair was still damp and had been combed back; as she pulled back from kissing him, she ruffled his hair.
I think the combed back look is also good.

Peter had so few friends, it was usually she who was looking for their dinner companions, whilst Peter stood by, people-watching.
What other friends have doubled with them?

It wasn’t Elias. It was bloody Sir Robert from Scotland. From Torchwood House.
But will she tell Peter? Maybe it would put him at ease, actually, knowing another person he knows had a double.

Sir Robert—Elias—gave her a steady gaze as he took her hand. “Have we met, Ms. Tyler?”
So he noticed her reaction?

At least he wasn’t Scottish.
I'd love to see her surprised with that Glaswegian accent.

She fought down a wince. She had a bad habit of slipping into “heiress” mode in social circumstances;
I didn't really notice anything especially formal or impersonal so far, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

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Does no one else have this reaction to Peter? I'd be quite surprised about that.

There are others--but not when Rose is necessarily there, or are by people with whom Rose interacts with on a daily basis.

What other friends have doubled with them?

Mickey and Jake, James and Susan...

So he noticed her reaction?

Most definitely.

I didn't really notice anything especially formal or impersonal so far, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

Rose is terrified of not being 'herself' with Elias and Ruby. So she's a bit oversensitive, and thinks that her line about wanting to be called Rose sounds a bit...forced.

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“Not always like this then, is he?” Ruby asked conspiratorially.
“No,” she said fondly.

I can just see her being so happy for Peter.

She wanted Peter’s friends to like her, desperately.
Is she afraid of disappointing Peter?

“So, Rose, Peter never did tell us how you two met.”
Peter sighed theatrically. “I told you we met—”
“Shoosh, you. I want to hear Rose tell it. I’m sure her version is far more accurate.”

*snort*

“I knew he was lying!” Ruby said, grinning at Peter.
“I never said he was lying,” Rose replied, feeling the corners of her mouth curve upwards. “But that’s not how we met.”

That's just how he romanced her :0)

“The first time we met, Peter Carlisle was...grumpy. Very grumpy.” She leaned towards Ruby. “I’m fairly certain he’d not been fed or coffee’d,” she said in a stage whisper.
Hee! Is Peter going red yet?

Rose turned to the gentleman in question. “You’re Scottish?”
“You make it sound like a disease,” Elias rejoined, lapsing into a brogue.
Rose couldn’t help the flash back to Torchwood House, and fought to regain her equilibrium. “There are worse afflictions to have.”

*Twilight Zone music*
Did you pick him to look like Sir Robert just for this kind of reaction?

“I work in field management. Dull stuff, really—lots of moving things from here to there, making sure paperwork is filled out, that sort of thing.”
So still secretive.

“It helps to be the owner’s daughter,” she replied with a wry smile. “A degree or even basic schooling is optional.”
Again, she noticed Elias’s surprise. What was he expecting from her?

Did he not think she'd reference being the owner's daughter? Or does he know more than he's letting on? Is he still thinking of Peter's reactions earlier?
I wonder what would happen if Rose ran into him in the course of work.

he glanced over to find Ruby giving her a thoughtful look.
“You’re not at all what I expected,” the redhead finally said.
“Thank you. I think.”

Was she expecting the airhead? Or someone more like Peter?

They were finishing up their dessert when she finally could resist no longer. “Elias.”
He turned to her, his dark glance questioning.
“How in heavens name did you get the reputation for being the chatty one?”

Go Rose! That's fantastic!

“That’s the one. When I was there—when the Doctor and I were there—we were guests of a man named Sir Robert, and his wife, Lady Isobel.” She took a deep breath. “Your partner is—well, looks like—Sir Robert. More than looks like. He could be him.”
So what's Peter thinking now?

Rose gave a weak laugh. “Let’s hope not—they’d be sure to find out who I really work for.”
How long will they remain in the dark?

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Is she afraid of disappointing Peter?

Yes. And she's afraid of disappointing his friends, too.

Did you pick him to look like Sir Robert just for this kind of reaction?

Nope. I picked him because I think Derek Riddell is hot--and I'd been dying for an excuse to work him into this, somehow.

Did he not think she'd reference being the owner's daughter? Or does he know more than he's letting on? Is he still thinking of Peter's reactions earlier?

No; No; Yes.

Was she expecting the airhead? Or someone more like Peter?

Ruby wasn't quite sure *what* to expect. She's seen Rose working for TW, from a distance, so she's fairly sure Rose isn't the airhead the papers make her out to be.

So what's Peter thinking now?

"At least I'm not the only one with a twin..."

He, of course, knows that Mickey was a doppelganger for Rickey, and that Jackie and Peter both had twins. So I think by this point he's probably accepted that Rose will run across other folks who look like people she knew in her original universe.

How long will they remain in the dark?

They won't be officially told until after she and Peter start living together.

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Poor Rose, I have a feeling Ruby and Elias will eventually figure out what she does, in fact Elias already has suspicions about her, right?
Loved the meeting though, hope there will be more in the future.

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I have a feeling Ruby and Elias will eventually figure out what she does, in fact Elias already has suspicions about her, right?

Elias doesn't, but Ruby already knows.

Loved the meeting though, hope there will be more in the future.

Oh, there will be plenty more. :)

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I've been reading all your work over the last couple of weeks and I absolutely adore it. I do have one question though - Peter seems to be under the impression that Rose and the Doctor were lovers. Does Rose know that this is what he's thinking and will she ever tell him that they weren't?
Again, loving your work x

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Does Rose know that this is what he's thinking and will she ever tell him that they weren't?

You're assuming they *weren't* lovers.

In truth, it's not a question I'm ever going to address directly--because I'm on the fence as to whether they were or weren't. Some days I think they were, some days I think they weren't. And rather than paint myself into a corner on that particular issue, I'll simply leave it ambiguous and let the reader read into it what they will.

However, I'm convinced that at some point Rose *will* tell Peter the truth of it. It's just not a story we'll ever see.

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Wow. So much wonderful stuff in this chapter, I don't know where to begin...

I love how Rose messes with Peter's hair, and I *love* that Peter is the relaxed one at dinner this time. So great. :)

And there's Ruby, bless her. There's something about the fact that she calls Elias "Eli" that just...makes me happy. And I'd love to hear about the evening from Ruby and Eli's perspective. :)

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I *love* that Peter is the relaxed one at dinner this time.

It was nice to flip their roles for a bit :)

And I'd love to hear about the evening from Ruby and Eli's perspective. :)

Hmmmm...maybe. It still takes me a little bit of time to work my way into their heads. (I did answer what they talked about after supper, in a reply upstream). :)

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Oh dear God, that was evil. Not only is it difficult to meet the S.O.'s friends in the first place, but to make him Sir Robert...

I knew it was going to be bad, but I just hadn't really considered how bad it could be...

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Oh dear God, that was evil.

I didn't think it was evil...was it?

I knew it was going to be bad, but I just hadn't really considered how bad it could be...

Oh, come on now. Dinner went well, all things considered. Everyone got on, once the ice was broken. And Rose was able to tell Peter *why* she was bothered, which is definitely Progress.

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Great chapter! Poor Rose, it's rough trying to met new people and wanting them to like you so badly. Then to have the fact he's a dead ringer for a man you saw die... it's hard. I think Elias was spending his quiet time studying Rose. I bet he sees plan as day the lies about her job and why she was in Kendal. Good old Ruby gave him a good kick in the butt to get things going.

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it's rough trying to met new people and wanting them to like you so badly. Then to have the fact he's a dead ringer for a man you saw die... it's hard.

Oh yes. It's less-than-ideal circumstances for meeting folks and making friends. But Rose gets through it, in part because Peter is so keen to make sure she's alright, and subtly reassures her throughout.

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You know, I've been looking at that header for... well, as long as it's been up and I *knew* I recognised the actor, but I couldn't remember how! XD Glad to have that little puzzle answered! *Is bad with facial recognition*

Anyway, another lovely chapter. I'm glad to see they had a chance for some down time. Also nice to see Rose finally getting to meet Elias and Ruby - I love the little changes in Peter when he sees his friend!

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*Is bad with facial recognition*

Whereas I'm *terrible* with names. I do a lot of "Hey! It's that guy!"

I'm glad to see they had a chance for some down time.

They needed it. Badly.

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The bulk of Sunday was spent lazing about Rose’s flat; they’d awoken quite late, and neither had been inclined to leave bed any sooner than necessary.

Mmmmm. Just reading this makes me want to go back to bed. Well, that and the fact that it's raining outside. Who doesn't love a rainy-day laze/snuggle, I ask you?


he’d told her the story, stammering and blushing, after the first time she visited the shop with him and saw Gretchen’s reaction

I'm sure she couldn't stop teasing him about it for hours afterwards, wondering if she was going to have to start carrying a stick to fend off all the women throwing themselves at Peter. And Peter, being Peter, totally doesn't get why she would say that.


She wondered if perhaps she might do well to tell Peter exactly how different he was—

Yes. This. This would be a very good idea. You go back upstairs and do that.


His hair was hopeless, standing on end in many different directions; he’d pulled out a pair of tatty old jeans and a wrinkled shirt from the back of her wardrobe

Ohhhhhh. Can I have one, please?


“Shall we, Miss Tyler?” he drawled, crooking his elbow.
She grinned, resting her hand there. “Do, lets.”


I see what you did there. :D


seeing if he could distract her whilst they worked on the crossword

I think a game of (actual, not euphemistic) Scrabble between them--she using alien words, he using Gaelic--would be most amusing.

Don't panic! I'm not asking you to write it! I'm just giggling thinking about it. ;)


She felt her heart soar when he giggled,

Oh, you had to make him giggle again. *loves the giggle*


It really was her own fault—she should have taken Peter up on his suggestion of moving in together when he had made it.

Not if she wasn't ready, she shouldn't have. I know she knows this, but still.


it was that he would be working in a place that chose him, that appreciated his talents and skills, and where he had a clean slate and a shot at success.

I'm glad to see (not that I ever doubted) that this is Rose's primary reason for wanting Peter at the Met; yes, they love each other very much and want to be together all the time, but if Peter moved to London without a job, say, or got a place at Torchwood--even though he is wonderfully qualified--he'd always feel like a kept man, and Rose would know it, and it would undermine them. Peter's personal and professional satisfaction is so important to him, and it's been denied him for so long that it's worn away a great deal of his confidence in himself. Getting that back might not be a conscious priority for him, as he's so beaten down--at least not yet--but it is for Rose, because she loves Peter and wants him to be fulfilled in all areas of his life. And that's the hallmark of a healthy relationship.


He brushed his palms across his hair, trying to smooth it down again;

Hee! Like a schoolboy with a crush. ;)


“Then why’d you mess my hair?”

"Elias is always neat and tidy. And he wears suits. Can I get some more suits, Rose? And shoes like his? They're the coolest shoes ever and he said he'd tell me where he gets them, and he doesn't tell anyone where he gets them so he must like me and can I, please?"


He bounced on the balls of his feet, leaning forward;

Hee! Just like Jimmy when he sees one of his friends arrive for a playdate. XD


It was bloody Sir Robert from Scotland. From Torchwood House.

Obviously, with as many duplicates as she's found in this universe (Pete, Jackie, Rickey), this is to be expected from time to time, but Sir Robert? That's got to be like a body blow.


and the memories brought out just by looking at Peter’s friend.

"You don't have a dog, do you? Or know any monks?"


Ruby laughed in knowing agreement.

They're going to get on fine, these two. Ruby'll cut her slack tonight, knowing she has to be circumspect about what she does, I'm sure. And once they can be really open with one another? I see them causing their respective loves no end of delightful consternation. Heh. They are so totally going to tell on their men to each other.


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Who doesn't love a rainy-day laze/snuggle, I ask you?

Only a cold-hearted soul. *nods* or Colin.

Same diff.

Ohhhhhh. Can I have one, please?

Get in line, honey.

I see what you did there. :D

What? What'd I do?

(you give me far too much credit on the cleverness front. Which is flattering, but...)

Don't panic! I'm not asking you to write it! I'm just giggling thinking about it. ;)

Phew! The muse is still on holiday.

*loves the giggle*

YES. Oh, God, YES.

And that's the hallmark of a healthy relationship.

I haven't had one in years, but it's good to know I can write them. ;)

Elias is always neat and tidy. ...

*snorts Dr. Pepper* OW!

That's got to be like a body blow.

Ummmmmm...yeah. Not Fun.

"You don't have a dog, do you? Or know any monks?"

"How do you feel about misteltoe? Do you and Ruby have a large telescope in your house?"

They're going to get on fine, these two.

Oh yeah. :D

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She wanted Peter’s friends to like her, desperately.

Awwwwww.


Ruby turned to her, her eyes alight. “He says he seduced you with poetry in the rain.”

He is so in for it later. In a good way.


Elias has tried it a time or two.

Why is this so funny? Is it because I just know he's trying to be as suave as Peter-who-charmed-the-heiress, and because Ruby probably collapsed into giggles watching him try and be all suave?

Not that they didn't shag like mad afterwards anyway, of course. ;)


Elias cleared his throat.

"Save it for later, you two." Meanwhile Ruby's planning a picnic for her and Elias and thinking of possible locations.


and the life of Queen Victoria, who’d not even made it to that age in this universe.

Ah, well that explains that. Have you covered why Torchwood was founded in your version of this universe? Pity me, I've only had one cup of coffee this morning. ;)


lots of moving things from here to there

For values of "things" that equal aliens and their weaponry?


“I thought they made allowances for on-the-job experience?” Peter added slyly.

Heh.


“You’re not at all what I expected,” the redhead finally said.

Interesting. Since she knows what Rose does, and presumably understands that the "flighty heiress" thing is most likely a cover, what exactly did Ruby expect?


offering comments but rarely, mostly sitting back and watching the interplay.

Does Elias know something's off? Not in a bad way--I'm just thinking he's a good detective; he has to know Rose is keeping something back, but it doesn't appear to bother Ruby, who he would expect to notice, nor Peter. I can imagine he'd be a bit confused.


“I’ve been listening!”
“You’ve been glowering,” Ruby corrected.


No detecting at dinner, Elias. That's rude. ;)


Rose was genuinely happy to invite Elias and Ruby over for supper the following weekend.

I assume Peter is cooking?


They were both quiet, Rose leaning against him as he gently stroked her arm,

Thinky thoughts from the DI, no doubt about what bothered her when she saw Elias.


It felt so good to have him there, holding her, safe in her flat.

Awwwwww. You're KILLING me. I know (essentially) how it ends; I know they end up living together. But I still ache for them here.


Underneath it all, she could catch the faint hint of the shaving soap she’d given him.

Totally unrelated, but Jimmy has started taking showers in our bathroom, and he's discovered (and fallen in love with) my Teakwood shower gel. I'm almost out already, thanks to him. XD


“I have faith that won’t happen to Elias. Certainly not on this case.”

Will Elias find out about his double?


“So you don’t need me to express my appreciation?”

*raises hand* I do.

...what?

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Why is this so funny?

Elias, I don't think, is a man who enjoys poetry as...naturally as Peter does. I mean, Peter loves reading it, and the rhythm, and to recite it to Rose feels perfectly natural. Elias would do it because he'd think it was suave, or romantic; he's not a poetry kind of guy, really, so to see him give it a go would be endearingly disastrous.

Have you covered why Torchwood was founded in your version of this universe?

I've kind of fudged it. I think in TWoT, I say it's because friends of the Royal Family encountered the werewolf. I also tend to think that, due to a variety of events (don't ask for specifics, please!), the visit to Torchwood house happened earlier in this 'verse.

For values of "things" that equal aliens and their weaponry?

Yes. Rose isn't lying--she's just not telling a thorough truth.

(this edition of 'morally ambiguous' brought to you by...)

Since she knows what Rose does, and presumably understands that the "flighty heiress" thing is most likely a cover, what exactly did Ruby expect?

I really don't quite know what Ruby expected. She didn't think Rose would be a bimbo. But she might have thought Rose, in person, would be a bit more like Peter. Snarky, quiet...something like that.

I can imagine he'd be a bit confused.

Elias is getting the vibe that there's something else, but he's wondering if his spidey sense is off because no one else seems to react to it.

Thinky thoughts from the DI, no doubt about what bothered her when she saw Elias.

Of course. And Rose knows Peter's going to ask her about it at some point...

I'm almost out already, thanks to him.

Your kid has excellent taste.

Will Elias find out about his double?

My gut instinct is to say no. But pondering it a bit beyond that, I'll amend it to "maybe." I'd have to work out the circumstances and need for him to know, story arc-wise.

*raises hand* I do.

*swats hand* No fondling the merchandise!

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I knew the "Elias/Sir Robert" was coming...and I think I was still as suprised as Rose.
Though, she appeared to handle it better than I was anticipating. And telling Peter about the resemblence, especially after his bad dream the night before....Good on her, and good on him for not withdrawing into himself and having a good sulk about it.

Rose & Ruby are going to get on like a house on fire, aren't they?

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I knew the "Elias/Sir Robert" was coming...and I think I was still as suprised as Rose.

Rose has a lot more experience dealing with the doubles issue, by this point; she'd have come across doppelgangers for many of the people she encountered in her former life. Peter...Peter's happy she told him, and didn't equivocate.

And yes, Ruby and Rose are going to get on very well indeed. :)

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Loved this chapter. I liked how Elias looks like Sir Robert and that this meeting has come very quickly after the conversation in the last chapter. I wonder if meeting Pete and Elias and realising that Rose knew them in the other universe will ease some of Peter's insecurities about the Doctor (looking the same but being different).

I am looking forward to hear what Elias and Ruby make of Rose.

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I liked how Elias looks like Sir Robert and that this meeting has come very quickly after the conversation in the last chapter.

It's good for Rose to be put at a bit of a disadvantage sometimes; it balances things out for her and Peter. :)

None of this story includes Ruby or Elias's POV's--but if you read my reply to...[livejournal.com profile] jvgymnast, I think, I touch briefly on what it is Elias and Ruby talk about after dinner. *g*

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This is SO good! These doppelgangers just keep turning up. I have always had a soft spot for Sir Robert..I like how Peter can just take on board what Rose is saying where she mentions Torchwood and he just simply adds "the werewolf" love that shorthand. It is good to see Rose in a slightly awkward situation and have Peter all relaxed and playful helping her out. Oh yes, make no mistake Elias is taking everything in! Those talented Glaswegians and how they can change their accents:) I'll say it again Ruby is fabulous. Just what you need in a situation like that. I like how she and Rose have a little bonding moment over grumpy Peter. I don't think the Torchwood paper pusher story really went over too well though. As always well done and thanks for sharing.


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Oh, I love this. I love the lazy Sunday morning, that the 4 finally meet, that it goes well (still worried about the first meeting with Annie...), and that there will be another get together soon. Follow-up is a good thing :)

The bulk of Sunday was spent lazing about Rose’s flat; they’d awoken quite late, and neither had been inclined to leave bed any sooner than necessary.

gee I have *no* idea why... *guh* lazing around with Peter, naked in bed ? *THUD*

Peter finally relented first, desperate for coffee; ... “You need coffee, Peter. I’ll go with you.”

did he really manage to go that long into the day without it ?

Rose didn’t have Louise, but she did have Gretchen, the regular barista in the small coffee shop on the first floor of her building

could they have called down and asked her to bring some up ?
I bet she'd be happy to if there were the chance of seeing Peter without a shirt, or something... ;) (it's something that I know some in-building coffee stands will do - when I worked in a building In Bellevue, WA the guys running the Torrefazzione stand (before they were bought by Starbucks!) in the lobby would bring us coffee on the 19th floor)

watching the usually sardonic woman turn to mush over the dark Scotsman.
Her dark Scotsman.


oh, yeah... we all go to much over that dark Scotsman, Rose. you are one LUCKY woman...

She wished she could make him understand just how solidly she was now rooted in this world; that she was rooted there because of him, and that she’d not leave him even if the Doctor came back for her. Telling Peter only seemed to go so far, and she had the feeling that it might be a fear he’d always feel. She wondered if perhaps she might do well to tell Peter exactly how different he was—

I love this thought process... the realization that it is time to find a way to tell him more about The Doctor so that the fears can dissipate. She's right they may never go away completely, because that's just Peter. But she can begin to lay the seeds of permanence that will cover them over so that they can't penetrate his conscious thought (and actually I count dreams as part of conscious thought because he remembers them) so easily.

His hair was hopeless, standing on end in many different directions; he’d pulled out a pair of tatty old jeans and a wrinkled shirt from the back of her wardrobe, left there months before during a long visit.
He was a mess. And he was adorable.


*CRASH*THUD*
iz.ded.

I love the playful way they spend the day... just being a couple and together but doing separate things at the same time...

Peter had arranged with Elias to have an early dinner that evening, and Peter finally had to leave to get ready shortly before 4, having left his ‘dinner’ clothes at the hotel.

oooh... when I first read this I thought he was going to dinner *without* her and I was *sorely* disappointed and thinking some choice words about our author. But I should have had faith in her :)

She was surprised at how bereft she felt when he was gone; how empty the flat felt.

and he's only just across town... what'll it be like when he's gone back to Kendall ? poor rose.

it was that he would be working in a place that chose him, that appreciated his talents and skills, and where he had a clean slate and a shot at success. It was exactly the type of environment he would thrive in, and she found herself grow giddy with the possibility that he might finally get the recognition he had so long been denied.

I adore the fact that she's as concerned about his mental state as her own with this whole thing... she desperately wants him closer, but she even *more* desperately wants him to be happy in all aspects of his life - he's happy with her, but he's so miserable at work and she just can't abide that anymore. *squishes*rose*

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did he really manage to go that long into the day without it ?

This is about...11, but yeah. He made it that long :)

could they have called down and asked her to bring some up ?

Nope. The shop is actually on the exterior of the building, fronting the Jubilee Walkway, and so they have to go outside to get into the coffee shop. No--not even the promise of a shirtless Peter Carlisle would be enough to lure the barista upstairs. Unless Peter or Rose gave her the key to the lift. . Or what would be the Jubilee Walkway, were there a Queen. (and for those who will correct me and say that the a US first floor is a UK ground floor--I screwed that up, I know. I just can't correct it until I get home).

But I should have had faith in her :)

Yes, you should ;)

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as she pulled back from kissing him, she ruffled his hair.

HEEEEEEEE!

He looked at her sulkily; she smiled. “You look just fine, Peter. You always do.”
“Then why’d you mess my hair?”
“Except when your hair is slicked back,” she laughed.


he looks *GORGEOUS* Rose... why didn't you say that ?! plum colored jumper ? *mind*drifts* but slicked back hair ? you're right to deal with that directly...

Rose shook Ruby’s hand, smiling; Sir Robert—Elias—gave her a steady gaze as he took her hand. “Have we met, Ms. Tyler?”

see... here's a man who can read people... and he saw the look in her eye... that 'why do I know you?' look ... I can't help but think if some of the angst might have been avoided if Peter had caught that look in Mickey or Jake or Rose's face at the beginning of TWoT and said something...

At least he wasn’t Scottish.

HA ! just you wait m'dear :)

Peter was a completely different man, smiling, talking; she’d only ever seen him like that with her, and she couldn’t fight down a smile.
“Not always like this then, is he?” Ruby asked conspiratorially.
“No,” she said fondly.
“He was a right cipher, first few times I met him,” Ruby replied, following Peter and Elias.
“I can believe it.” She grinned, remembering those early days of working with Peter. “He can be quite a charmer, when he chooses to be,” she added drily.
Ruby laughed in knowing agreement.


woohoo ! they've got each other pegged already ! that was fast !:)
(though we should have known... two very perceptive women, they are)

She couldn’t remember the last time she’d cared so much about making a good impression on someone.
She wanted Peter’s friends to like her, desperately.


silly Rose. people love you. you're bright and bubbly and people love you... even when you're not being the heiress.

Ruby decided she’d had enough of Rose being quiet.

so if Rose was sitting back and watching. And Elias was sitting back and watching. That means that Ruby and Peter did all the talking ? hmmm... that would certainly show Rose a side of Peter she'd not seen outside of their own togetherness - perhaps with Jake and Mickey some.

Peter sighed theatrically. “I told you we met—”

Peter doing anything theatrically is quite an eye opener !

“Shoosh, you. I want to hear Rose tell it.

and I wonder when the last time anyone said "shoosh, you" to Peter was ? I'm amazed Rose didn't sit slack-jawed in amazement at the repartee :)

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Rose... why didn't you say that ?!

She tells him later, off-screen, as she's stripping him out of his clothes.

I can't help but think if some of the angst might have been avoided if Peter had caught that look in Mickey or Jake or Rose's face at the beginning of TWoT and said something...

Doubtful. Very, very doubtful. The issues still would have been there, and by having them at the outset, it's possible that Peter and Rose would never have gone on a date.

that would certainly show Rose a side of Peter she'd not seen outside of their own togetherness -

Oh yes. Peter would loop Rose in, Ruby would loop Elias in--but a lot of the conversation was between Peter and Ruby, with Peter holding Rose's hand, or his pinky stroking against the side of her hand where it rested next to his on the edge of the table.

I'm amazed Rose didn't sit slack-jawed in amazement at the repartee :)

Rose, I think, can imagine Jackie doing this to him, quite easily. *g*

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“I never said he was lying,” Rose replied, feeling the corners of her mouth curve upwards. “But that’s not how we met.”
Ruby leaned forward, eager for the story; Elias remained sat back in his chair, watching her.


i find Ruby's interaction with Rose to be *exactly* what I would have expected... I'm a little surprised at Elias. For someone who enjoys prodding Peter to get him out of his shell, to not use the opportunity to ask Rose questions seems unlike him. Though I guess he figures that Ruby might be better at getting details our of Rose ?

Rose once again leaned in towards Ruby. “There’s nothing quite like a Scotsman reciting Burns to drive a girl wild.”
“Don’t I know it,” Ruby nodded. “I think they teach them when they’re young ‘uns; Elias has tried it a time or two.”
Rose turned to the gentleman in question. “You’re Scottish?”
“You make it sound like a disease,” Elias rejoined, lapsing into a brogue.


HA ! if it's a disease, it's one I'd happily die of... listening to tall dark Scots talking... all day every day ? Oh yes !

“Years of training,” he offered drily, still with his brogue.
She had no idea what to say—or at least, what to say that wouldn’t sound very rude indeed. The taciturn man next to her was suddenly nothing like Peter had described, and Rose felt her confidence falter.


I'm a little surprised that Peter hadn't told her about Elias' ability to switch back and forth. It had such an impact on him you'd think he'd have shared it.

Peter spoke up. “We went on our first date that night.”

and Peter to the rescue. he's known something is up with her and is willing to step in. what a guy :)

I like the way the conversation eventually builds to Rose sort of confronting Elias and I *love* his being affronted at being spoken of in the 3rd person.

It felt so good to have him there, holding her, safe in her flat.
“You’re alright?” Peter asked, rocking her gently.
“Right as rain.” She buried her nose in his jumper, loving the smell: a mixture of the spray his drycleaner used, his deodorant, and the cologne he only rarely wore. Underneath it all, she could catch the faint hint of the shaving soap she’d given him. The combined scents reminded her of some of the happiest nights of her life.


this elicits a combination of "aw" and *GUH* from me. they're sweet together and yet the prospect of leaning and feeling and smelling that combination is just... wow...

lovely :)

(I started this comment 2 HOURS AGO ! but we've been busy :( sometimes I really hate having a job! of course, it rocks that I have a job where I can actually *do* this so I shouldn't complain)

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Re: ASTG chpt 20 comments pt 3 of 3


For someone who enjoys prodding Peter to get him out of his shell, to not use the opportunity to ask Rose questions seems unlike him.

He's sitting second on the interrogation--simply watching, observing, thinking. He might not be doing it consciously, but, well, there you go.

I'm a little surprised that Peter hadn't told her about Elias' ability to switch back and forth.

It took him aback largely because of the circumstances; by this point, Peter has assumed that Elias has, for the most part, gone 'native' when it comes to London. And, well, he had a few other things on his mind when talking with Rose.

I started this comment 2 HOURS AGO ! but we've been busy :(

I hear ya.
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